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    <title>On Belief: A Podcast About Cults - Episodes Tagged with “Nancy Salzman”</title>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2019 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
    <description>We all would like to think that we're immune to being persuaded, but were that true, advertising wouldn't work, the best candidates would always get elected, and our personal relationships would always be equitable.
On Belief examines why, with so much information available to us to dissuade us from joining harmful groups. I ask people who have had first hand experience with harmful groups and sects how they were seduced, how they were tricked, and how they got out. 
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    <itunes:subtitle>On Belief is about why none of us are immune from coercive thought reform</itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>We all would like to think that we're immune to being persuaded, but were that true, advertising wouldn't work, the best candidates would always get elected, and our personal relationships would always be equitable.
On Belief examines why, with so much information available to us to dissuade us from joining harmful groups. I ask people who have had first hand experience with harmful groups and sects how they were seduced, how they were tricked, and how they got out. 
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  <title>Episode 111: Cult Hopping &amp; NXIVM Trial Update With Guest EJ Dickson</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2019 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Karen Geier</author>
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  <itunes:episode>111</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Cult Hopping &amp; NXIVM Trial Update With Guest EJ Dickson</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>EJ Dickson covered the NXIVM trial for Rolling Stone and discovered a phenomenon among those who leave cults: some of them move to other cults.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>49:31</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Guest EJ Dickson, who covered the NXIVM trial for Rolling Stone joins me to discuss the details of the trial and a phenomenon known as cult hopping, which she was made aware of from some people who testified at the NXIVM trial.
In this episode, we discuss:
    The lurid nature of the testimony
    Surprises revealed in court
    Whether key figures are still supportive of Keith
    Whether these verdicts are precedent-setting
    How people cult hop
    What makes a person cult hop
    And more... Special Guest: EJ Dickson.
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  <itunes:keywords>cults, sects, religions, yoga, Rick Alan Ross, Karen Geier, NXIVM, coercion, belief, Keith Raniere, Allison Mack, Nancy Salzman, EJ Dickson</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Guest EJ Dickson, who covered the NXIVM trial for Rolling Stone joins me to discuss the details of the trial and a phenomenon known as cult hopping, which she was made aware of from some people who testified at the NXIVM trial.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

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<li>    The lurid nature of the testimony</li>
<li>    Surprises revealed in court</li>
<li>    Whether key figures are still supportive of Keith</li>
<li>    Whether these verdicts are precedent-setting</li>
<li>    How people cult hop</li>
<li>    What makes a person cult hop</li>
<li>    And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: EJ Dickson.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Guest EJ Dickson, who covered the NXIVM trial for Rolling Stone joins me to discuss the details of the trial and a phenomenon known as cult hopping, which she was made aware of from some people who testified at the NXIVM trial.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>    The lurid nature of the testimony</li>
<li>    Surprises revealed in court</li>
<li>    Whether key figures are still supportive of Keith</li>
<li>    Whether these verdicts are precedent-setting</li>
<li>    How people cult hop</li>
<li>    What makes a person cult hop</li>
<li>    And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: EJ Dickson.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 102: NXIVM With Guest Brock Wilbur</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2019 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Karen Geier</author>
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  <itunes:episode>102</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>NXIVM With Guest Brock Wilbur</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>UNLOCKED FULL EPISODE. 

Content Warning: Episode contains frank discussion of sexual and other forms of abuse.

Brock Wilbur joins me to discuss when he was inadvertently recruited by a division of NXIVM and how that lead him to investigate the cult. 

Little did he know what he would encounter. 

Brock discusses his unique insights into the trial of Keith Raniere.

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  <description>**A change has been made to this episode. Two sentences not materially important to the content of the episode have been removed to comply with a nastygram from a law firm representing a particularly litigious group which, while not directly referenced in the episode, are related to the group previously mentioned in this episode.  The group in question is in no way affiliated with NXIVM.
We at On Belief would like to thank the intern at the law firm for their patronage in the $5 tier.**
Brock Wilbur sits down to discuss how he became aware of Keith Raniere and NXIVM and what he has uncovered so far. 
Brock discusses what it's like to worry for years you might be sued into oblivion by a cult
Brock describes some little-known facts about the inner workings of NXIVM
Who is Keith Raniere?
Who is Nancy Salzman?
Which organizations were used as fronts for NXIVM?
What does Keith Raniere's trial hold? Special Guests: Brock Wilbur and Rick Alan Ross.
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    <![CDATA[<p>**A change has been made to this episode. Two sentences not materially important to the content of the episode have been removed to comply with a nastygram from a law firm representing a particularly litigious group which, while not directly referenced in the episode, are related to the group previously mentioned in this episode.  The group in question is in no way affiliated with NXIVM.</p>

<p>We at On Belief would like to thank the intern at the law firm for their patronage in the $5 tier.**</p>

<p>Brock Wilbur sits down to discuss how he became aware of Keith Raniere and NXIVM and what he has uncovered so far. </p>

<ul>
<li>Brock discusses what it&#39;s like to worry for years you might be sued into oblivion by a cult</li>
<li>Brock describes some little-known facts about the inner workings of NXIVM</li>
<li>Who is Keith Raniere?</li>
<li>Who is Nancy Salzman?</li>
<li>Which organizations were used as fronts for NXIVM?</li>
<li>What does Keith Raniere&#39;s trial hold?</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Brock Wilbur and Rick Alan Ross.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>**A change has been made to this episode. Two sentences not materially important to the content of the episode have been removed to comply with a nastygram from a law firm representing a particularly litigious group which, while not directly referenced in the episode, are related to the group previously mentioned in this episode.  The group in question is in no way affiliated with NXIVM.</p>

<p>We at On Belief would like to thank the intern at the law firm for their patronage in the $5 tier.**</p>

<p>Brock Wilbur sits down to discuss how he became aware of Keith Raniere and NXIVM and what he has uncovered so far. </p>

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<li>Brock discusses what it&#39;s like to worry for years you might be sued into oblivion by a cult</li>
<li>Brock describes some little-known facts about the inner workings of NXIVM</li>
<li>Who is Keith Raniere?</li>
<li>Who is Nancy Salzman?</li>
<li>Which organizations were used as fronts for NXIVM?</li>
<li>What does Keith Raniere&#39;s trial hold?</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Brock Wilbur and Rick Alan Ross.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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